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Curved Sony S85C 4K TV Now Available | by Sohrab Osati

Curved Sony S85C 4K TV Now Available | by Sohrab Osati | Sony ReconsideredOpen in appPublished in

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Aug 18, 2015

Sure, they’re not selling like hot cakes — or perhaps even selling — but Sony knows that there are some out there who like curved TVs. To that end, the company has announced the S85C, their newest 4K TV powered by Android TV. Available in 55- and 65-inch, the S85C is built on the X850C line with the obvious difference of being curved. More details including price and spec after the jump.

Exclusive to Europe, some note worthy features of the S85C include

• Android TV
• 4K Processor X1
• Triluminos
• Motionflow XR 960
• Backlight: Edge LED
• Dimming: Frame
• Two sizes:
• KD-65S8505C — £ 2,499
• KD-55S8505C — £ 1,799

Though it won’t be live till a future firmware update, the S85C also includes a dual tuner, allowing you to watch TV and record another channel all at the same time. While a nice feature, it won’t do much for those with a DVR which can record far more channels at any given time. The S85C series is now available for purchase.

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Comparison test: curved TVs LG, Samsung and Sony

April 14, 2015

Curved TVs have been in fashion since 2013. Manufacturers, not finding anything else to interest buyers (4K, 3D and other things did not take off), rushed to bend the screens and tell how great it affects the perception of the image. The motivation is very different: from reduced distortion and improved presence effect to links to authoritative studies of Japanese University of Kyushu. In general, the companies have done everything possible to convince the buyer: a curved TV is exactly what you need! And if so, then why not arrange a comparative test and find out which of the curved TVs on our market is the best? And in general, is the game worth the curved candles? We have brought together all three top curved TVs that are officially available in Russia and compared them side by side.

To ensure a fair comparison, we have tried to level the playing field as much as possible. All TVs were fed exactly the same signal through a 4-port HDMI switch. Each model was calibrated as closely as possible in terms of brightness and color reproduction in order to eliminate unnecessary scatter of factory settings and leave only the most important nuances. Next to the three curved TVs was another flat one so viewers could compare the different curvature of the screen.

We invited colleagues from the Mail.Ru Group to watch TVs and share their impressions, which we carefully recorded and analyzed. The results were interesting.

Image

To evaluate the most important parameter for a TV, the image, we used Panasonic’s demo materials. It is the Japanese who choose dynamic, lively videos without unnecessary effects for demonstrations that will really show the ability of the matrix to transmit movement, in contrast to the Korean demonstrations of all sorts of leaves and serene fields. We remind you that all TVs were in equal conditions with the same settings.

Glare and reflections

The contrast of the image, as you know, depends not only on the TV itself, but also on the lighting conditions in the room, because this or that part of the reflected light inevitably “mixes” with the image. Here it is curious to compare whether curved TVs have a fundamental advantage? We put the TVs sideways to the window, as they are often located in our apartments, and photographed on a sunny day.

Our testing shows that in bright environments, any difference between matrix technology and curved or flat screens is negated. In a sunny room, it’s hard to tell the difference between OLED and LCD, or between TVs with different screen shapes. The reason is obvious and utterly banal: bright light, whether you like it or not, is able to interrupt the image with reflections and glare. To prevent this from happening, you need to apply special anti-reflective coatings – and this is equivalent to both curved and flat TVs.

Here’s a 55-inch flat-panel TV for comparison, from the same angles. As you can see, any light is reflected off the glossy surface of the screen, be it curved or completely flat.

Moreover, the presence of special polarizing coatings does not greatly affect the result: in our selection, the anti-glare properties of LG were somewhat better than those of Samsung and Sony, but in principle they behave the same. For example, it was difficult for people to distinguish any difference while the TVs were under bright lamps.

There can be only one conclusion: watching TV in bright light means sacrificing picture quality.

Contrast

Moderate lighting is another matter. Here it is easier to capture the nuances of the image and see the difference between the models. Contrast-wise, as expected, LG’s OLED TV comes to the fore: its deep, pure blacks look like ink against the bluish-purple backlighting of Samsung and Sony. Accordingly, dark scenes are given to him much better, and in general the image is more embossed and voluminous. The OLED panel’s native contrast ratio is quite impressive, to say the least.

In the LCD camp, an approximate parity in visual contrast has formed, although the Sony matrix score is slightly higher than that of Samsung. On the TV from Sony there are “clouds” at the bottom of the screen, from Samsung – at the corners of the panel. All this, of course, does not add a sense of quality. Although, if you forget for a second that there is a high-contrast OLED panel nearby, then LCD TVs look good.

Audience voting was unanimous: LG’s OLED TV has the best contrast ratio. Single voices from Samsung and Sony look more like a statistical error… However, this is understandable: the subjective feelings again coincided with the real data. It would be strange if it were the other way around.

Color reproduction

The color reproduction of the TVs was adjusted so close to each other that it was hard to tell the difference offhand. However, each model has its own nuances and individual features.

For example, the LG OLED TV does not have a very good color balance in the shadows, and in general, the TV is difficult to set up. On the real video, you could notice some “stratification” of gradations in the shadows, but the palette is quite good. There are no complaints about the main colors at all, the image is lively and natural. And, of course, LG’s solid contrast ratio produced deep, clean colors where LCD TVs would already pale from backlighting.

Samsung’s color reproduction retained a bluish tint even after careful adjustment. Apparently, it affects that the TV has a blue LED backlight, and it inevitably “tints” the image. However, nothing criminal happens to the colors: the overall image is quite adequate, and the TV is set up easily and conveniently. The only thing worth mentioning is not too even color saturation, which made them look a little juicier, then paler than on other TVs.

Sony’s color reproduction is good even without in-depth settings. Here you can immediately see a good color balance, smooth gradients, and everything your heart desires. The palette of primary colors is very accurate, so that the color reproduction is, in general, smoother than other TVs.

The user vote singled out LG again: the OLED TV’s color reproduction was liked by the majority of viewers. Following LG again is the Samsung TV, but for some reason the Sony TV did not appeal to the audience with its palette, although there were no purely technical questions for it.

Viewing angles

Viewing angles were the easiest to evaluate: OLED has the widest viewing angles and has the least artifacts when viewed from an angle – obviously an important parameter for a curved TV. So the image on the LG 55EC930V at an angle, although it acquires a greenish tint, but retains excellent legibility.

Curved TVs from Sony and Samsung equipped with VA LCDs show more modest features, and the image fades and distorts at an angle quite quickly. It is possible that the curved LCD matrix worsens the viewing angles.

It is not for nothing that the eyewitnesses of our test unanimously singled out the viewing angles of LG, and someone even put two ticks at once – the difference turned out to be so big! In this category, curved LCD TVs from Samsung and Sony fell behind by a landslide. Maybe they can somehow rehabilitate themselves?

Motion transmission

Well, finally, the LG OLED TV shows weaknesses – otherwise the previous paragraphs were a one-wicket game. Dynamic scenes on LG are noticeably blurred, although without unnecessary artifacts: in the Motion Resolution test, about 300 lines out of 1080 are visible. The TruMotion intermediate frame interpolation function brings this parameter to only 600 lines.

In turn, the Samsung TV, using the competent MotionPlus “Clear” mode, was able to increase the regular 300 lines already up to 1080. That is, the dynamic image remained very clear and readable, despite the fact that we have an LCD TV with known limitations in terms of response speed.

The Sony TV turned out to be quite good too: activating MotionFlow “smoothing” with scanning backlight increased the standard 300 lines in the speaker to 1080 lines. Although the overall clarity was somewhat inferior to Samsung: the Sony has more artifacts, and the scanning backlight causes a barely noticeable flicker and a decrease in brightness.

The audience vote again turned out to be quite objective: Samsung and Sony TVs, albeit a little, were ahead of LG. A small step for the test, but a big step for LCD TVs – at least in some ways they were able to get ahead of OLED.

Design and shape of the screen

Externally, the LG 55EC930V OLED TV is the most effective. Not only is it curved (which is quite logical, given the name of the review), it also uses OLED technology, due to which the thickness of the curved TV panel is only 4.3 millimeters!

The bezels around the screen are also very thin, and a sleek stand completes the look. The TV looks stylish and impressive, it will not get lost against the general background. True, the finish has been slightly simplified relative to previous models – for example, the back wall is now without “carbon”. But the Koreans also lowered the price of the TV.

The Samsung UE55HU9000 TV looks solid, and good materials play an important role here. For example, the stand flaunts brushed metal, and the edging is chrome. Fortunately, there was no unnecessary kitsch, and Samsung found a good balance between design sophistication and practicality.

An important feature of Samsung: the TV connectors are placed on the One Connect external module, and part of the stuffing is also contained here. This will be convenient if you plan to hang the TV on the wall. Otherwise, you will need to look for a separate place for the module.

And, of course, we can’t help but mention the shape of the screen: Samsung is the most curved TV in our test, so to speak. The radius of curvature of its screen is 4.2 meters, while the radius of curvature of LG is 5 meters, while Sony has it even more, and the arc of the screen is the most gentle.

Curved TV Sony KDL-65S9005B, as usual, looks severe. The body color is predominantly black, it is diluted only by a chrome-plated stand and a brushed silver edging on top.

Sony has an important feature: the supporting “legs” can be placed at the edges of the TV, or closer to the center if the width of the table is less than the TV. It turns out that a 65-inch colossus, if desired, can be put on a compact rack. The Sony TV, of course, does not have a very bright appearance against the catchy LG and Samsung, but the quality of materials and assembly is at a good level.

Voting in the category “Design” and “Screen shape” gave unequivocal results. Our audience liked the design of the LG TV, with a large majority voting for it, and even more viewers appreciating the curved screen shape. Notably fewer people voted for Samsung’s design, although many people liked its rather curved screen more than a flat TV or a slightly curved Sony. They received the minimum number of votes for the design and shape of the screen. Perhaps the presence of more stylish models from LG and Samsung simply affected here.

Interface

The LG 55EC930V TV uses webOS multitasking system with a very simple interface. But even an inexperienced user will not get lost here. Many applications and Internet services with Russian-language content are available in the system, including the latest blockbuster films. Not the last role is played by a special Magic Remote, which works in pointer mode. With it, management becomes intuitive, and the webOS interface is tailored specifically for it. Of the minuses, one can only name that the system can “think about it” if many applications are running in parallel. However, that’s why it is the first multitasking OS on TVs.

The Smart Hub interface is responsible for smart functions in the Samsung HU9000. It is divided into three desktops: “Samsung Apps” (apps), “Movies and Series” (video content, online cinemas) and “Multimedia” (built-in player and network media content). The interface is quite beautiful and understandable, it is more “traditional” than that of LG. Perhaps inexperienced users will get lost in the abundance of Smart Hub icons, but in terms of functionality and content, Samsung is in the lead along with LG. By the way, the remote control is very convenient – of course, because it was, in fact, copied from MagicRemote! Both the design and the principle of operation are very similar here. However, let’s leave it on the conscience of Samsung: it works well – and okay.

TV Sony KD-65S9005B is clearly in the role of “catching up” when it comes to the interface and Smart TV. The main menu is neat, but in some places the structure is confusing, many will have to figure out what’s what here. This is especially true for system settings. The amount of useful content is small: the application catalog is mostly full of little-known Western services, and there is relatively little Russian-language content. Finally, a touch remote control with a touchpad is used for control: its convenience is somewhat inferior to the “pointers” of LG and Samsung, you need to get used to it. In general, for those who have tried Smart TV on Korean TVs, the Sony system will seem more boring and not very convenient.

Indeed, our audience voted for the interfaces of LG and Samsung roughly in half, and Sony got the least votes for the menu. Perhaps the alignment will change in the new lines when Sony switches to Android TV, but so far the interface has not impressed our volunteers.

Results of the audience voting

Here are the detailed results of the audience voting:

There is only one conclusion: OLED technology has impressed almost everyone. Neither 3D before, nor 4K screens evoked such emotions, and even if the LG TV were not curved, the advantages of the matrix would still be obvious.

Opinion Hi-Tech.Mail.Ru

It’s time to sum up the comparison. In principle, the expert opinion on most issues coincided with the opinion of the audience, and this only confirms the reliability of our methodology. Visually, the LG 55EC930V OLED TV was a real winner, with audiences appreciating contrast, color reproduction and overall picture quality. Many liked the design and the optimal shape of the curved screen, as well as the user-friendly interface. The latest OLED technology has expectedly outperformed LCD, and only lost once in dynamic imaging. Anyway – LG 55EC930V is a convincing first place. The very case when it is better to see once than hear a hundred times – almost all viewers liked the LG OLED TV.

As for the Samsung UE55HU9000 TV, it was rated by about a third of our audience. In fact, there were no critical complaints, but next to the LG it looks faded, especially in viewing angles. From an expert point of view, one can complain about the lowest contrast in the test, as well as uneven backlighting: small “clouds” are noticeable on dark scenes. The rest is a normal modern TV with decent equipment. The only problem is that at a comparable price to LG’s OLED TV, Samsung’s curved TV looks unconvincing, and no amount of Ultra HD resolution will help here.

TV Sony KD-65S9005B, according to our audience, in third place. Votes for him were rare, except for a single luck with dynamic scenes. From an expert’s point of view, Sony pleases with higher contrast and more accurate color reproduction than Samsung. But the uneven backlight is frustrating: the bottom half of the screen is lighter than the top, there are a lot of differences. However, this can partly be attributed to the size: Sony is the only 65-inch TV in the test. Less in the S9 series005B is simply not released. Perhaps the curved Sony TV can be put in second place for cinephiles: as one of the voters wrote on the form, “bigger is better!”

Finally, the answer to the burning question: is it necessary to chase curved screens? From an expert point of view, the curved shape of the screen does not show any significant advantages over conventional flat TVs. Everything rests only on the fact that a curved TV obviously has an unusual design – this, perhaps, is where the practical meaning ends.

What will the audience say? Firstly, many viewers could not offhand distinguish curved models from a flat TV. To be sure of the curvature, they had to get closer and look at the TV from the side. Secondly, none of the viewers we interviewed could clearly answer the question: what new sensations did the curved screen cause? People singled out for themselves the vending design, more pleasant image, and the form of the screen as such receded into the background.

Conclusion: curved screens are not yet necessary. Rather, it is just another fashion trend.

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